A Talk With Miguel Serrano

Originally posted on Black Sun Sole Nero

You define yourself as an “Esoteric Hitlerist.” Please define the term.

Miguel Serrano: Hitler said, “Whoever thinks that National Socialism is only a political movement does not understand anything.” National Socialism was always Hitlerism, and Hitlerism always had an esoteric foundation. At the end of the 1930’s and during the war years it was not possible or convenient that this theme be widely known. However, after the war and its apparent loss, there was no other way for Hitlerism than the esoteric development. For me, Esoteric Hitlerism is being possessed by the Archetype of the collective unconscious, which the Greeks used to call Gods — among them, Apollo, which really is Wotan for the Germans, and Vishnu or Shiva for the Hindus — and its development in the individual and collective souls of the actual Hitlerist warriors. That means a new/old religion, with all of its rituals and myths which are necessary to discover, or rediscover. Its central Drama is the apparition on this earth of the Person Adolf Hitler, the last Avatar, who came to produce this enormous storm, or catastrophe, in order to awaken all those who are asleep, and to commence the New Age, which will come after the Deluge. That is the reason why we have started to count the years of this New Age beginning with the birth of Hitler.

C.G. Jung, in an interview before the war, compared Adolf Hitler to Mohammed. Do we consider Mohammed a politician? He was a prophet with enormous political repercussions in the world. I consider Adolf Hitler to be the greatest figure in the world, and the repercussions of his visions, thoughts and action would be impossible to calculate today. If we were to think in Indo-Aryan fashion, as Savitri Devi did, we must see in Hitler an incarnation of the divinity, an Avatar, as in the title of my book Adolf Hitler: The Last Avatar.

How did you arrive at Hitlerism, both esoterically and exoterically?

Miguel Serrano: I arrived at exoteric Hitlerism from the political left, and very much impressed by the heroic death in 1938 of sixty-two young Chilean Nazi followers of my generation. During the war I published a magazine called La Nueva Edad, (The New Age). Then shortly afterward, my Chilean Master, who revealed to me the secret roots of Hitlerism and who Adolf Hitler really was — a magician who had the power to voluntarily travel out-of-body and communicate with other non-corporal beings.

Does your esotericism imply any form of ritual or worship?

Miguel Serrano: Yes, it does. We here in Chile performed public ceremonies similar to those performed at the Congress of Nuremberg, like the “Autos Sacramentales,” but, now no longer do we so in public. The rituals can be on the Equinoxes and Solstices. Also, we use very small groups, concentrating on our Fuhrer or projecting the mind in order to fight or destroy the contrary forces of the enemy.

Do you believe events can be changed magically, that is, via ritual magic and meditation?

Miguel Serrano: Yes, it is possible, but it is a tricky and dangerous affair. Today the Enemy works mentally, using the Kabala and electronic apparatus (Takion), projecting sub-atomic particles in order to control minds. Yes, today the central war is psychotronic, technotronic and cybertronic. The principal war is a mental one, called Kamomanasic. This means that the enemy is intervening in the mental atmosphere of the Aryan, manipulating their thoughts and separating the mental from the physical bodies, altering the karma and its spiritual development. In a way, the whole world is hypnotized by these means, combined with subliminal messages found in today’s media, as well as drugs and drinks like Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, etc. Yes, the mental war can be fought only with similar strategies. Of course, this needs a special discipline and training, like the Esoteric SS, or the ancient religious military orders of the past.

To what extent does your esotericism relate to Jungian archetypes and the use of symbols such as the runes?

Miguel Serrano: The runes are very important magic symbols, but the code of their interpretation has been lost, and their power almost destroyed by the malicious vulgarization and popularization by the Jews. It is necessary to rescue them, as I did in my book Adolf Hitler: The Last Avatar. We must use them in our mental combat. However, it is not prudent to talk very openly about all of this.

We know that your integrated personality brought you very close to great figures of literature and science. Could you describe to us, even if very briefly, some of them you knew?

Miguel Serrano: The most remarkable to me was Ezra Pound. I knew him at the end of his life. He was living in Venice following 13 years interned in the psychiatric ward of a mental institution in the United States. He was confined there for his support of Germany and Italy during the Second World War. I, also, met the Dalai Lama at the time when he escaped from Tibet during the communist Chinese invasion. He was very young, 25 years old. I went to meet him in the Himalayas, he has never forgotten that, and when we met again at the funeral of Indira Gandhi in Delhi, he invited me to go to Dharmasala, where he now lives. We had a very interesting talk. It is good to know that before Buddhism was introduced in Tibet, Tibetans were a warrior race, and their religion, the Bo, used the same swastika as Hitlerism. Even today the intelligence services of England and the United States have not been able to figure out the real and mysterious links that existed between Tibet and Hitlerist Germany. Tibet fell shortly after the fall of the Third Reich. Unfortunately, the Dalai Lama is now another prisoner of “Globalism” and a tool of the Jews. I knew other interesting people: Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi, in the political world; Hermann Hesse, C.G. Jung in the literary and scientific world. The first two were the most outstanding figures I could have known as politicians. About the other two, my opinions have been published in my book C.G. Jung and Hermann Hesse: A Record Of Two Friendships.

Please tell us under what circumstances did you come to know Carl Jung.

Miguel Serrano: In my book I explain the circumstances which brought me to meet C.G. Jung. He wrote the foreword for my book The Visits Of The Queen Of Sheba. I think that this Swiss Professor knew better than anyone else in our time who Hitler really was. In the book by Professor William McGuire Jung Speaking, published by Princeton University Press, three interviews of Professor Jung on Hitler are reproduced. One was in the London Observer, another in an American newspaper, and the third on Radio Berlin, at the end of 1938. In these interviews Jung stated that Hitler was possessed by the collective unconscious of the Aryan race. This means that Hitler was the spokesman of the whole Aryan world. This extraordinary theme is explored in my book Adolf Hitler: The Last Avatar.

We know that Jung recognized National Socialism as a resurgence of the Wotan “Shadow” of the Germanic folk. Did Jung view the release of this Archetype as a positive or a negative phenomenon?

Miguel Serrano: Professor Jung was an enormous thinker, but he was a Swiss and, therefore, a contradictory personality, very different in character to Heidegger, as a matter of fact. Immediately after the War he started to change, and made very shameful statements about Hitler and of the German people. These statements I did not know until very recently and have caused me to lose part of my admiration for the Jung personality. Also, Jung did not understand anything about Wotanism and the runes. I think this was caused by his Christian background. His father was a Lutheran minister, as was the father of Hermann Hesse, Holderlin and, if I am not mistaken, the father of Nietzsche. This fact creates such a confusion and internal drama, that it drove the last two to madness. The furthest that Jung would go was “Meister Eckhart” and gnosticism. On the other hand, he was a freemason, as many of the Lutherans are.

Nevertheless, Jung was a cunning and opportunistic man, as I can visualize it today. When Hitler was in full power and National Socialism on top, Jung coined the concept of the “two collective unconscious,” which was a lethal weapon against the Jews, as well as the Freudians. After the War, this concept disappeared from his writings, so completely, in fact, that today it is impossible to find it in volumes of his complete works. I have a book published in Argentina in 1939 under the name El Yo Y El Inconsciente (The “I” And The Unconscious) where the theory of the two collective unconscious is explained. Moreover, Jung took a Jewish woman as a secretary.

Some friends of Jung, such as Van der Post, state that Jung came into conflict with the National Socialist regime. What were Jung’s true views on National Socialism in the later years of his life?

Miguel Serrano: In this case, the statement of Van der Post claiming that Jung came into conflict with the National Socialist regime is totally untrue. He never had any direct contact with the regime. He only was the President of the Psychiatric Society of Berlin, replacing Dr. Goering, brother of Hermann Goering. Jung only tried to please the National Socialists at the time, and after its defeat he recanted, to please the Jews. This was never the case with Heidegger or Ezra Pound. It is because of this fact that I have said that even though I admire the thinking of Jung, I have come not to admire his character.

What were the circumstances in which you came to know Ezra Pound?

Miguel Serrano: I met Ezra Pound for the first time in Venice. He was already mute at the time, but he broke his silence with me. I have told this story in my book The Golden Chain and in The Last Avatar.

Pound is said to have repudiated his pro-fascist views toward the end of his life, and to have regretted his former associations. Is this true?

Miguel Serrano: It is absolutely untrue that Ezra Pound has regretted his pro-fascist views toward the end of his life. He did not speak or write at all, therefore, it is impossible for him to have done this. I think he was in a voluntary silence so that nobody could force him to make an involuntary declaration. To the very end of his life he remained true to his ideals, and he said, “Be true to your old dreams so that our world will not lose hope.” Unfortunately, Ezra Pound was surrounded by people who loved him (like Olga Rudge), but did not understand him. The Italian prince Ivancici, a friend of Hemingway, was, also, among those who did not understand him well, and they invited the Rabbi of Venice to Pound’s funeral, who of course, refused to attend. Maybe they were trying to convince the Jews to give him a posthumous Nobel Prize … what a pity! In any case, Ezra Pound, Knute Hamsun, Arno Breker and myself are happy and honored to be the outcasts and damned in the present Jewish world.

What is your opinion about the philosophical work of Savitri Devi?

Miguel Serrano: Savitri Devi is the greatest warrior after Adolf Hitler, Rudolf Hess and Joseph Goebbels. Moreover, she was the first to discover the secret and spiritual power behind Hitlerism. She envisioned a new religion and inaugurated a sanctuary for Hitler in India. She was, as I myself am, anti-Christian. She initiated, completely on her own, all that I have developed up till now. It is not a mere coincidence that the Spanish Catholics published an attack against Savitri Devi, Otto Rahn and me. It was very late in her life when we started to write each other. We just missed each other in Europe, by one week. I arrived a few days after her death. I think that Savitri Devi will be the greatest sister of all the priests of Esoteric Hitlerism — the priests of Wotan.

Many writers on the occult have made references to the alleged links between the Third Reich and Tibet. Can you personally confirm that such links existed?

Miguel Serrano: It is very much unknown, but there was a personal connection between Adolf Hitler and Sven Heding, the Swedish explorer of the Himalayas. Both were interested in finding the shortest physical way to relate Germany and Tibet — Berlin and Lhasa — geographically. In the spiritual world, the relationship between Berchtesgaden and Lhasa existed even before Hitler came, magically.

There are many legends about the Tibetans and the Battle of the Bunker. As a matter of fact the mission of the Tibetans was to preserve and protect the entrance of the Hollow Earth, like the Incas in America. The real link between Tibet and the Third Reich was the Swastika, “Levogira”, because the directions of this swastika are the same as that of the religion of Bo, of pre-Buddist Tibet, which was Aryan of the Dropas, of the Hyperborean.

Mr. Serrano, could you tell us how you characterize the modern liberal societies and to what extent these offer solutions to the higher spiritual quest of man?

Miguel Serrano: There are differences between the modern liberal societies and the old liberal ones, being both — as marxists communism — creations and tools of international Jewry. It is absolutely impossible that these systems offer “solutions to the higher spiritual quest of man.” On the contrary, these systems were created by the Jews in order to destroy the non-Jewish societies and the souls of the goyim.

What were the esoteric currents behind the NSDAP and the Third Reich?

Miguel Serrano: Hitlerism, as Otto Rahn would say, was Luciferian. Lucifer is the Morning Star. I am a Luciferian in the sense that Lucifer is the Morning Star, “the most beautiful light,” and the Morning Star is a God-Goddess Venus. It is more than a planet, it is a comet that stopped where it is now in order to remind the divine men of their own spiritual origin, and to show them the way to recover it. There on Venus, Adolf Hitler is now, together with the elite who managed to escape Earth at the end of the War. Contrary to misconceptions, Lucifer has nothing to do with “satanism,” which is manipulated by secret services such as the CIA, M-12, Intelligence Service and the Mossad, etc., in order to destroy the real spiritual current and the Archetype of Hitler. The real esotericism behind Hitler and the very small elite that surrounded him was an esoteric scientificism of other science and other technology as well. This was mainly based on the implosion principle, leading to the UFO’s and traveling between dimensions, with the absolute need to lose the war here, to gain in the parallel world, or better said, in another place-situation.

The NS regime banned the Thule Society and other occult orders whose members had been involved with the founding of the NSDAP. Why were these orders banned?

Miguel Serrano: The Third Reich banned the Thule Society and other occult orders because there was too much old nonsense in these esoteric clubs, as well as some connections with Freemasonic societies like the Golden Dawn, Aleister Crowley’s satanism, homosexuality and so on. The founder of “Thule,” von Sebottendorf, had connections with Turkish Freemasonry. Immediately after the Third Reich came to power he escaped to Istanbul, where it is said that he committed suicide in the Bosphoros in 1945, at the end of the war. He was probably killed by the Intelligence Service, after being manipulated by it during his lifetime. Something similar happened to Karl Haushoffer.

This does not mean that in the Thule Society there were not great personalities, like Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg and Gottfried Feder, the real creator of the economy of the Third Reich.

Do you consider the SS to have been an esoteric order as some authors claim?

Miguel Serrano: The SS was, also, influenced by the Templar Order, as Julius Evola told me. There was an elite SS which was working with Tantrism, (of course this had no connection with California style Tantrism and similar trends). The SS did not have enough time to reach their goals. But, in any case, they tried hard to produce the Over-man by using blood alchemy — the Absolute Man.

Considering that today you are one of the leading representatives of philosophical thought, what does National Socialism — as a political and spiritual movement — represent for you?

Miguel Serrano: This question I could link with your previous question. National Socialism — as created and introduced by Adolf Hitler — is considered by me to be the only system in all the history of the world that came to give to the non-Jewish people the solutions against the Jewish systems of economic liberalism and marxism.

Adolf Hitler changed everything. He put an end to usury and the gold standard, replacing it with a system whereby the workers and their labor were the most important. The most genial idea was the destruction of usury, because it is interest which allows the Jews to live without working, always the middleman between the producer and the consumer. It was such a terrible blow to the liberal Jewish system and Jewish marxism that a World War was necessary in order to destroy Hitler. Interest on capital is sacred for these two systems.

Focusing the social system on aspects other than economic concerns, along with the abolition of usury, everything changes automatically. Life is able to be spiritualized and the economy is put in second place. During the short period of the Third Reich, we could see the most fantastic explosion in all spiritual spheres: architecture, art, philosophy and science.

Do you consider NS to have been strictly a phenomenon arising to meet the needs of the 20th Century, or to be more broadly part of an esoteric tradition?

Miguel Serrano: There was an exoteric National Socialism until 1945. After this date, at the end of the War, what followed was the esoteric Hitlerism, which nobody will be able to stop now because it is the “constellation” and revelation of an Archetype which was incarnated in the person of Adolf Hitler, who is immortal because of this fact. It is not a “fetishism” to adore and be at the service of an Archetype. Quite the contrary, this means to be a founder or a warrior-priest of a new-old Religion.

Albert Kami has said, “The 21st century will be the century of faith or it will not exist.” At the end of the 21st century will it have been a century of faith, or will we be over the cliff that world capitalism is pushing us?

Miguel Serrano: To be honest, I am not very sure about anything concerning the 21st century. We are in the Kaliyuga, the darkest age, or the Iron Age of the Greeks, and experiencing an accelerated involution. If we believe this, it will be very difficult to think about a possibility of a new faith. Politically there is not a solution, unless there is an intervention by the Hitlerists who survived the catastrophe of World War II, and who set up a new science and technology. We, the Esoteric Hitlerists, believe in that. It will be the magical phenomenon we await. But, that does not mean that we do not continue to fight to the very end for our Ideals, even if we are very realistic about the darkness of the near future.

As we know, you have devoted your life to Esoteric Hitlerism. Could you tell us briefly — for our readers who are just hearing the term Esoteric Hitlerism for the first time — what exactly it is?

Miguel Serrano: Esoteric is a Greek word referring to God. Esoteric Hitlerism is that which transcends the field of politics, and, in one way or another, makes contact with the spiritual sense and symbols. We believe that if the world does not come to an end soon, it will be only because Hitlerism transformed itself into a new religious faith, able to change the materialistic man of today into a new idealistic hero, to whom the afterlife is as important as life itself. That was the attitude of the heroes at Thermopylae, who fought for honor and duty — for Dharma. If only it were possible to develop all over the world a heroic attitude, a sort of Order of Warriors — priests of the new religion of Hitlerism — the world could be saved and materialism destroyed. Esoteric Hitlerism is a totally new world view (Weltanschauung), a Cosmogony. The SS tried to transmute man to superman, in Sonnenmensch, or Sun-Man, a man who will again be a god. This is an old Aryan concept, which is not unlike traditional Greek thought, and the initiation of the Mysteries of Apollo and Dyonisus. The Dorian Greeks had a nostalgia for Hyperborea, and so do Hitlerists.

Is Esoteric Hitlerism the coming new religion? And if so, will this come in a new age?

Miguel Serrano: I think that this question has been answered. Of course, if there is a possibility of a new religion, it will be Hitlerism. All the elements are there: the incarnation of the Archetype. And when the Archetype is working we are compelled to work for its success, even our enemies are working for that. Nothing can stop the Archetype. Without knowing it, we will triumph in the end. But, I want to tell you that I consider that Hitlerism is much more than a religion; it is a way to transmute a hero into a god.

Mr. Serrano, what is the present situation in Chile with regard to the National Socialist movement?

Miguel Serrano: The National Socialist movement in Chile is following events very carefully. The international conspiracy has its own archetypes and in South America will apply the same methods employed by World Zionism and transnationalists. The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank will continue to impose on us their plan for the Third World. Pinochet represented these international powers, and the current democratic regime will continue to carry out the same policies to the end. We will resist and fight with all the means at our disposal.

What do you have to say about those who call themselves National Socialists, but sit alone in a room with photographs of the past without facing the problems of today … and without doing anything to change the present situation for the future?

Miguel Serrano: I think this has already been answered. We, the Esoteric Hitlerists, have the Law of Synchronicity, which means to function in two worlds, here and there — in the philosophical world and in the world of action. A thought is not healthy without being able to materialize into action. As Nietzsche said, “For a tree to reach Heaven with its branches, it must first touch Hell with its roots.”

What is your opinion of “neo-Nazism” which often seems to be influenced by a superficial American-style bigotry rather than a deeper European philosophy? What is your opinion of such neo-Nazi leaders as George Lincoln Rockwell?

Miguel Serrano: I will not speak bad of Rockwell. I think he was touched by the lightning of the Archetype and was killed in order to be reborn in the “Last Battalion.” His loyal follower Matt Koehl has been trying hard to keep some spark of the fire alive, even in the midst of this terribly superficial “American-style bigotry.”

How do you view Christianity in relation to NS, considering many leaders such as Leon Degrelle came to NS from Catholicism?

Miguel Serrano: Hitlerism and Christianity are completely opposed, as Paganism and Christianity are. Christianity has been completely ruined by Judaism. My dearest friend and comrade Leon Degrelle had great doubts at the end of his life, I must tell you. And by special disposition asked to be cremated like Baldur was. This was an Aryan decision, not a Christian one.

Do you have a metaphysical view on the origin of the races, or a Darwinian evolutionary view?

Miguel Serrano: I am opposed to Darwin in my conception of race. I do not have evolutionary views, but involutionary ones. What a pity that my books Adolf Hitler: The Last Avatar and Manu: For The Man Yet To Come are not yet published in English, because there you would find an Orphean and Hitlerian Cosmogony. Spirits — or shall I say beings — came to this visible world and embodied with matter in order to fight the Demiurge on this plane, which is the real Creator of Satan-Yahweh-Jehovah, who in turn created the Jewish genetic robot in order to contaminate the planet Earth. The first terrestrial embodiment of these spirits took place in a Polar body or Hyperborean race. From there, in comes the dramatic involutionary story of the mixture of the pure race with the original earthly beings. Then came the Aryans, which means “twice born,” that is, those who try to recover the purity of the “first born.” This is the true meaning of racism.

You are, I believe, a worshipper of Shiva. To what extent is NS a reflection of Hindu cosmology as propounded, for example, by Savitri Devi?

Miguel Serrano: Shiva is the same as Wotan. Both of them in the beginning were only heroes of the Polar or Hyperborean race, the embodiment of the Archetype. Legend has made them Gods. The first race had the Power called Odil or Vril, which has now been lost. The task of the Esoteric Hitlerist is to try to recover this Power and become like Shiva or Wotan again — the Over-Man.

Do you view history as cyclic, and if so, do you consider, like Oswald Spengler, the West to be in irreversible decline? Should we seek to “save the West” or, as Nietzsche said, “to push the falling,” so that something new might emerge?

Miguel Serrano: I think the view of history as a cyclical phenomenon in the Hindu and Greek way of thinking is the appropriate one. The Eternal Recurrence. We are now at the end of the Cycle, or Kaliyuga. It is like a harvest, the exact number of grains have matured and very few have done so. A new age will bring the sun again, in a New Earth, or in the soul of the actual Earth, and to prevent her from perishing with everything else. The exact number of those saved have left this battleground in UFO’s — this spiritual machine — with Hitler, the Fuhrer, Wotan-Shiva. I think Spengler confused the cyclical ideas of the Hindus and Greeks, diminishing and transforming it into a mechanical and biological situation of growing and dying. He circumscribed this to the decadence of Western civilization, when really it belongs to the whole world and for the planet Earth as well. As for “push the falling,” it is really quite ridiculous to think in those terms, because it is not necessary at all. The “acceleration of time” will bring the end even before we think or could expect.

How do you view the present world situation, with the push towards a “New World Order,” American hegemony and global consumer “culture?”

Miguel Serrano: The Jews have been preparing the so-called New World Order since the beginning of history. The “global consumer culture” is the means of achieving it — it is already here. With the end of Bolshevist Russia, international capitalism is destroying national borders and sovereign states. Soon after this will come the end of capitalism, of paper, of plastic, and electronic money. The technotronic and electronic and cybertronic “globalism” will serve very well to impose the Theocratic (Jehovah-Yahweh) world dictatorship, together with virtual reality and computer technology. With virtual reality the Jews think they have discovered a magic device capable of striking the last mortal blow to actual reality, or to Mother Nature, in a way that even Nature cannot defend herself and be destroyed with all the rest. I hope you will understand this satanic and horrific, or diabolical plan. In connection with all of this, I would like to state very clearly that I am absolutely against people, or innocents, who on the edge of the abyss are playing like children with the word “satanism” and “diabolical,” and even worse, mixing all of this with Nazism and Hitlerism. Many satanists do not know that they are manipulated, psychotronically, in fact, hypnotized by the CIA, Mossad and other such organizations.

The esoteric Hitlerist war is not only on the Earth, but throughout the whole Universe, against the servants of the Demiurge (the enslaved Aions). It is a terrible but glorious War, and we do not have time for people who will only damage our sacred fight with all the kookiness coming from California, like “satanism,” from Zionist America, as well as Zionist England.

How do you envision the future of Europe? Does Europe have a common “soul” which can transcend the differences?

Miguel Serrano: At the end of World War II the SS approved and made known the Charte of Charlottenburg, and they conceived a real “New World Order” of ethnic fatherlands, or natural groupings of racial and linguistic stocks. They even published a map of Europe wherein all the artificial boundaries dating back from World War I were abolished. With the material loss of World War II, the Charter of San Francisco was approved, that is the United Nations, where all races are mixed, so that the Jews can control them all. This is the “Globalism” of today’s unnatural and monstrous world.

What role do you think Russia will take in future world affairs? Many liberals and Zionists are fearful of a “Fascist” takeover of Russia. Do you think it likely?

Miguel Serrano: I am always afraid of Russia; there is there a seed of madness in this area of the world, surely because of the mixture with the Mongolian and yellow race. The “Charter of Charlottenburg” envisaged for Russia a very serious and deep ethnic division: the Viking and German stock with Europe, and the rest with Asia, Mongolia and China. In order to have Fascism and Nazism in Russia it is necessary to understand the racial problem.

The Chilean military junta was called “fascist” but let in the global corporations and adopted the free-market economics of Milton Friedman. How did you view the Junta?

Miguel Serrano: The Junta was a disaster for Chile, as all professional military are. Hitlerism and Nazism are completely the opposite of a military dictatorship. Franco was a traitor who destroyed the Falange, Gen. Vargas destroyed fascist “Integralism” in Brazil; Antonescu destroyed the Iron Guard in Romania; the military in Chile helped to kill the young Nazis in 1938, and Pinochet helped the Jews coming into Chile as well as Friedman’s liberal super-capitalism. I was always openly against Pinochet’s regime, totally separating Hitlerism from his dictatorship. Hitlerism is a cosmogonic conception, a totalitarian and theocratic Weltanschauung, in opposition to the totalitarian and demoniac cosmogonic conception of the Jews.

What is your view of Islam, which presently seems to be the only major force standing in the way of global consumerism and usury?

Miguel Serrano: My view of Islam is not favorable at all. They are a fanatic monotheistic people, and we are pagans and polytheists. We “live and let live.” We are defending ourselves against fanaticism and monotheism. Islam will never feel that we are their brothers, and at the end we cannot count on them.

How do you view the future of NS?

Miguel Serrano: At this moment I cannot predict the prospect for a Hitlerist resurgence. The only thing I can say is that I am always surprised that in spite of the decades of brainwashing propaganda, young people are reborn again as National Socialists and admirers of Hitler, as if they were “reincarnated” in order to continue the struggle on this Earth. This gives me hope and new energies to continue with the fight. Hitler and the swastika are enduring and eternal symbols, certainly archetypes with “enduring powers of their own.” The Archetype will do the work by itself, even without our best knowledge and quite beyond our will and limited life span. This is our hope, our belief and the only thing that I know.

What do you consider man’s destiny to be?

Miguel Serrano: I have replied to this before. There is no destiny for all of mankind, only for some. To recover their divinity, but not as the “unconscious Gods,” but with full consciousness, as a Total-Man, in the sense of the Jungian “individuation,” a God conscious of Himself which is only possible to achieve on this earth. To achieve this is the meaning of Esoteric Hitlerism. When one arrives at such a state, one becomes the UFO, or the Vimana itself, without need of an external new science or a new technology, because one has achieved a parallel world, or a new place-situation, where we shall meet the Fuhrer and the warriors of the Last Battalion. This will be the real space colonization as the ultimate expression of the Faustian soul.

Mr. Serrano, any final words to our readers?

Miguel Serrano: I want to express to the young comrades of the English and German speaking world at large, that none of these things will be obtained if we don’t fight a synchronistic battle, also, in the physical world against our Great Enemy, even at the risk of losing our mortal life. In this connection, we have a common ideal with the Muslims, who believe they must die in battle in order to reach the Heaven of Allah (This comes to the Arabs from Aryan Persia.) We believe that if we are killed or murdered for our ideals, we shall go to Valhalla where Wotan and our Valkyries will give us a hundred-fold what we were unable to achieve in our warrior life on Earth … but, only if we are real Esoteric Hitlerist Warriors!